Topic: modelling RC beam using shell element

Dear Sir,

I'd like to model a RC beam using shell elements, the beam depth is 0.55 m. Should I use a mesh size of 0.55m or can I use, for example 0.05m?. Because when I did so an error occurred saying that there is more than a single element layer in local Z direction.

Re: modelling RC beam using shell element

Dear mtma, please see ATENA 3D User's Manual, 3.7.2.2.7 Shell Macroelements (if you work in ATENA Engineering 3D) or  ATENA-GiD User's Manual, 5.3.2 Shell Material (if you use the ATENA-GiD interface of ATENA Science) for basic information about defining shell elements.

A quaote from the ATENA-GiD User's Manual:
Unlike volume elements, a single shell per volume thickness works well in bending. In other words, placing 2 or more shell elements above each other ("above" refers to the shell thickness direction) is not a good idea. Instead, use a single shell per thickness with more internal layers to improve precision.

I would further recommend to read ATENA GiD User's Manual, 5.7 Finite Element Mesh or ATENA 3D User's Manual, 3.7.4 FE Mesh for general information about meshing in ATENA.

Re: modelling RC beam using shell element

Dear dpryl

during the analysis of the previous beam, the following message appears:
Warning: Sign of diagonal changed when reducing equation(****).

What does this mean and how does it affect the results?
Thanks

Re: modelling RC beam using shell element

Dear mtma,
please see ATENA Troubleshooting, 2.2.6 Floating point problems - Division by zero, Loss of >7 digits on the matrix diagonal, Warning: Sign of diagonal changed when reducing equation, Floating point exception: Multiple floating points traps, Zero or negative jacobian, InvertA: zero determinant, CCMaterials Extended AExc: CC5ParamYield F:project_stress_on_f_division by zero, and similar

Re: modelling RC beam using shell element

Dear dpryl

I read ATENA Troubleshooting, 2.2.6 but I still can't figure out the problem!

Re: modelling RC beam using shell element

Then, you can send us your model, following the instructions in ATENA Troubleshooting, 2.1.1 I have a problem not listed here.